#108032: "Loss and Damage's target unclear"
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• Merci de copier-coller le message d'erreur qui s'affiche à l'écran, s'il y a lieu.
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• Veuillez expliquer ce que vous vouliez faire, ce que vous avez fait et ce qu'il s'est passé
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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• Merci d'expliquer votre suggestion de manière précise et concise, de façon à ce qu'il soit aussi simple que possible de comprendre ce que vous voulez dire.
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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• Qu'affichait l'écran lorsque vous avez été bloqué(e) (Un écran vierge ? Une partie de l'interface du jeu ? Un message d'erreur ?)
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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• Quelle partie des règles n'a pas été respectée par l'adaptation BGA ?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• La violation de règle est-elle visible dans le replay de la partie ? Si oui, à quel numéro de coup ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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• Quelle action de jeu vouliez-vous faire ?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• Qu'avez-vous essayé de faire pour déclencher cette action de jeu ?
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• Que s'est-il passé lorsque vous avez essayé de faire cela (message d'erreur, message dans la barre d'état du jeu...) ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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• À quelle étape de la partie le problème est-il apparu ? Quelles instructions le jeu affichait-il ?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• Que s'est-il passé lorsque vous avez essayé de faire cette action de jeu (message d'erreur, message dans la barre d'état du jeu...) ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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• SVP copiez / collez ici le texte affiché en anglais au lieu de votre langue. Si vous disposez d'une capture d'écran du bug (bonne pratique), vous pouvez utiliser le service d'hébergement de votre choix (snipboard.io par exemple) pour la télécharger et en copier/coller le lien ici. Ce texte est-il disponible dans le système de traduction ? Si oui, a-t-il été traduit depuis plus de 24 heures ?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
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• Merci d'expliquer votre suggestion de manière précise et concise, de façon à ce qu'il soit aussi simple que possible de comprendre ce que vous voulez dire.
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v117
Historique du rapport de bug
I looked at your replay for 451669425 but while "Change in Major Weather Systems" did appear if I look at moves 210 to the end of the game it did not indicate that additional crisis cards were drawn. This is because it never reached a Tipping Point which is on spaces 5 and 6 for that effect.
Does that make sense? I'm not a developer and am not trying to refute what you are saying in the rest of your report but just wanted to note that from the replay for 451669425 I don't think any additional crisis cards were drawn due to the weather die.
> which then got marked "implemented."
It was marked as implemented because the suggestion you commented on, add "Loss and Damage Fund" to the title bar text, is implemented. You can add a different suggestion in a comment and reasonably expect the scope of the ticket to continually grow. If that were the case, users would just throw in unrelated improvements on popular suggestion tickets, effectively holding the suggestion completion hostage until the additional suggestions were implemented.
Now, I don't see any move number in your suggestion, so I've looked over your entire game, just like @TheInquisitor did. I don't see any point at which additional crisis cards were drawn. So I looked for a point at which a face-down crisis was about to be resolved on which you could activate Loss and Damage Fund. There's one such occurrence towards the end of move 210, the same move @TheInquisitor found. So I replayed that step by step and, wouldn't you know it, the crisis card in question (Fossil Fuel Subsidies) is flipped face up and displayed prominently when the Loss and Damage Fund appears.
If you have a table and move # I should look at to see the problem when crisis cards are drawn mid-turn, I'll take a look. Without any evidence to the contrary, I think the current presentation fulfills the suggestion with respect to the table submitted, so I'm marking this as implemented.
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