#153390: "Adrenaline is not handled correctly when a player leaves the game"
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• Merci de copier-coller le message d'erreur qui s'affiche à l'écran, s'il y a lieu.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• Veuillez expliquer ce que vous vouliez faire, ce que vous avez fait et ce qu'il s'est passé
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v131
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• Merci d'expliquer votre suggestion de manière précise et concise, de façon à ce qu'il soit aussi simple que possible de comprendre ce que vous voulez dire.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v131
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• Qu'affichait l'écran lorsque vous avez été bloqué(e) (Un écran vierge ? Une partie de l'interface du jeu ? Un message d'erreur ?)
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
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• Quelle partie des règles n'a pas été respectée par l'adaptation BGA ?
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• La violation de règle est-elle visible dans le replay de la partie ? Si oui, à quel numéro de coup ?
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• Quelle action de jeu vouliez-vous faire ?
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• Qu'avez-vous essayé de faire pour déclencher cette action de jeu ?
From move #1655
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• Que s'est-il passé lorsque vous avez essayé de faire cela (message d'erreur, message dans la barre d'état du jeu...) ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
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• À quelle étape de la partie le problème est-il apparu ? Quelles instructions le jeu affichait-il ?
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• Que s'est-il passé lorsque vous avez essayé de faire cette action de jeu (message d'erreur, message dans la barre d'état du jeu...) ?
From move #1655
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• Veuillez décrire le problème d'affichage. Si vous disposez d'une impression écran du bug (bonne pratique), vous pouvez utiliser le service d'hébergement de votre choix (snipboard.io par exemple) pour l'uploader et copier/coller le lien ici.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v131
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• SVP copiez / collez ici le texte affiché en anglais au lieu de votre langue. Si vous disposez d'une impression écran du bug (bonne pratique), vous pouvez utiliser le service d'hébergement de votre choix (snipboard.io par exemple) pour l'uploader et copier/coller le lien ici. Ce texte est-il disponible dans le système de traduction ? Si oui, a-t-il été traduit depuis plus de 24 heures ?
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v131
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• Merci d'expliquer votre suggestion de manière précise et concise, de façon à ce qu'il soit aussi simple que possible de comprendre ce que vous voulez dire.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Quel est votre navigateur ?
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Historique du rapport de bug
Player was skipped and the arena game continues with 4. Adrenaline to the last 2 now is incorrect and changes the impact of the game heavily.
with 4 it is only last player with adrenaline, but you could also say, race started with 5, so adrenaline to last 2 players, but 1 player is always last as he is not playing, 2nd adrenaline goes to nr4, thus last player in the race still racing.
Just played a race where i was tucked behind the two leaders in third, and pretty confident that I would win or get second, thanks to this anomaly! Fortunately it didn't effect anything in the end.
Two players out of six either quit or timed out during a championship. Despite not starting or otherwise participating in the races it still applies adrenaline's +1 boost to players 3 & 4. One of the remaining players seems to be exploiting this
Just lost 1st place in this championship game at the Mexico track because the player who was 2nd used adrenaline to get the point needed for the win. He was 2nd and used adrenaline!? It was all because a race had a rule that a spinning out results in quitting the race and so 3 players were out of the race. That way the adrenaline rule moved to the 2nd and 3rd position which is just plain wrong.
- 5 player arena match (4 humans, 1 legend)
- player 4 left the match
- adrenaline was given to player 3 in the remaining game
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