#44292: "Log when infection discard pile is shuffled and placed back onto deck + count of cards"
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Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Veuillez expliquer ce que vous vouliez faire, ce que vous avez fait et ce qu'il s'est passé
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Google Chrome v91
• SVP copiez / collez ici le texte affiché en anglais au lieu de votre langue. Si vous avez une capture d'écran de ce bug (pensez-y !), vous pouvez utiliser Imgur.com pour la télécharger et copier-coller le lien ici.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Ce texte est-il disponible dans le système de traduction ? Si oui, a-t-il été traduit depuis plus de 24 heures ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• Merci d'expliquer votre suggestion de manière précise et concise, de façon à ce qu'il soit aussi simple que possible de comprendre ce que vous voulez dire.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• Qu'était-il affiché à l'écran lorsque vous avez été bloqué·e (Écran vierge ? Une partie de l'interface de jeu ? Un message d'erreur ?)
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• Quelle partie des règles n'a pas été respectée par l'adaptation BGA
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• La violation de règle est-elle visible dans le replay de la partie ? Si oui, à quel numéro de coup ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• Quelle action de jeu vouliez-vous faire ?
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Qu'essayez-vous de faire pour déclencher cette action de jeu ?
• Que se passe-t-il lorsque vous essayez de faire cela (message d'erreur, message de la barre d'état du jeu, ...) ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• À quelle étape de la partie le problème est-il apparu (quel était le texte d'instruction du jeu) ?
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Que se passe-t-il lorsque vous essayez de faire une action de jeu (message d'erreur, message de la barre d'état du jeu, ...) ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• Veuillez décrire le problème d'affichage. Si vous avez une capture d'écran de ce bug (pensez-y !), vous pouvez utiliser Imgur.com pour la télécharger et copier-coller le lien ici.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• SVP copiez / collez ici le texte affiché en anglais au lieu de votre langue. Si vous avez une capture d'écran de ce bug (pensez-y !), vous pouvez utiliser Imgur.com pour la télécharger et copier-coller le lien ici.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Ce texte est-il disponible dans le système de traduction ? Si oui, a-t-il été traduit depuis plus de 24 heures ?
• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
• Merci d'expliquer votre suggestion de manière précise et concise, de façon à ce qu'il soit aussi simple que possible de comprendre ce que vous voulez dire.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Quel est votre navigateur ?
Google Chrome v91
Historique des rapports de bug
======CURRENT LOG======
[Replay last moves]
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
Infection in Baghdad
Infection Rate is increasing
New Epidemic!
Dispatcher receives Miami
Dispatcher draws 2 card(s)
======SUGGESTED LOG======
[Replay last moves]
7 Infection cards placed on top of infection deck
Infection discard was shuffled.
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
Infection in Baghdad
Infection Rate is increasing
New Epidemic!
Dispatcher receives Miami
Dispatcher draws 2 card(s)
======EXAMPLE FOR EXTENDED IDEA ======
[Replay last moves]
7 Infection cards placed on top of infection deck
Infection discard was shuffled.
Contents of the infection discard pile:
1. Baghdad
2. Example
3. Example
4. Example
5. Example
6. Example
7. Example
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
Infection in Baghdad
Infection Rate is increasing
New Epidemic!
Dispatcher receives Miami
Dispatcher draws 2 card(s)
Both are in service of allowing more information to turn-based players about what was in the discard pile that just got shuffled as this information is easily missed.
In a game played IRL we will always use the privilege provided to us by the rules ("Players may freely examine either discard pile at any time") to ensure we know, and then track what is being shuffled and placed on the Infection draw pile
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